Ark Overview

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    Hurry up Saturday get here so I can finally evolve him!!

    Great review(as usual)(y)

    Can't wait to pair up Ark and Zenia and see what kind of shenanigans is possible:p

    Also another good LVA sub if we ever get it.:)
     
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    nice review, really want him now, damn that afla dilith that always rekt my squad :(
     
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    Is it true that the extra hits added from his bb don't generate any bc? If so, then what about Zenia UBB (I think it does)? I saw somewhere @Alrisha had mentioned it and I just find it odd that it wouldn't, but he's normally on point with mechanics. I guess I'm just wondering why if not.

    I could just be thinking of something different entirely, so I don't wanna be putting words in someone's mouth if I'm not recalling correctly. So if I made that up don't hate:p
     
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    I would be happy if someone could prove me wrong. But from my observations, so far I don't see any extra BC drops from the buff.

    A field test using two Selena. One with Lexida. The other without.

    Without Lexida normal attack:
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    With Lexida normal attack:
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    Without Lexida + Ark's BB:
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    With Lexida + Ark's BB:
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    Furthermore I expanded the test with Selena's UBB as well.

    Without Lexida + UBB
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    With Lexida + UBB:
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    Visually, there's is no particular difference in BC drop with the +hit count buff from BB or UBB that we would expect to see. I've already set Item drop visual setting to MAX. So far from what I can tell, this only affects the BB and UBB buff. Spheres like Lexida still produce extra BC as shown in the picture. I assume ES is the same as well.

    Does it affect me on using +hit buff from BB and UBB? Hell NO. The damage it does to single target is proven to be awesome in numerous occasions. I don't use it for BC. I use it to NUKE bosses and humiliate them with normal attacks. :p



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    Thank you for the exhaustive testing @Alrisha - lines up with my observations as well though I hadn't tested it in nearly as much detail.
     
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    Heh, "chucklefucks".
     
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    This probably deserves 2 likes, if anything. What a great test you did. Thanks for the confirmation. And I 100% agree, hadn't even thought about drop checks up until this point with the + hits. I just can't wait to test it out on Arkem's thunder body part of Balmedia's tail when I need to farm for more sphere mats. Finally a way to make sure that the body part I want gets nuked before the main body dies reliably :)
     
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    I thought it did double drop checks cuz my Arena squad can get SBB on 3-5 units after first turn with 1 hit shenanigans.
     
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    Lexida, Bestie ES, do increase drop checks

    Ark BB doesn't
     
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    amazing
    ^^ luv it ^^
     
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    ~An Ode to Ark~
    So working my way through Beirog and I come across the level where a certain boss is the only one you fight. I was like ok, let's pick Ark friend, cuz why not. I hit start way to fast... It's my metal parade squad. No mitigation, no stat nulls or cleanse. Kewl.

    No biggie, I have Husbandro supreme Ark and Elly just told me he's OP. I fujin him, and normal attack with everyone. A unit gets paralyzed. But that lovely Michele and her Low BB cost gets her BB up. Pop that and end him the next turn with normal attacks .

    Granted, I'm sure this was a very easy level to begin with, but it could have went very bad lol.
     
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    For me I am glad Ark turns out to be this powerful...and useful.
    It's finally time again for a free unit to be one of the most meta unit available, since Maxwell. It feels like a nice touch of accomplishment on our side and a touch of generosity on their Alim's side, as if not everything depends on money or RNG. (though to beat him you still need some good units)

    When Maxwell first appeared, I felt like playing hard to obtain the prize was worth it, they really give thought to this unit as a cool award. Thereafter, all units seem sub par and borderline useless. Karl appearance was way too late, Seria, Lugina & Paris are trophy units, while Grah & Owen... was quite niche, and then again, too late into the game. There is nothing to say about vortex arena and Raid units. You better have 7* units that are more powerful to complete those challenges, and get rewarded with bench warmers.

    This time, Ark is like Maxwell's second coming, let the hype roll again (y)
     
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    just a question. ark bb with others attacking normally does more dmg compare to spamming sbb???
     
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    did you read any of this thread? In the right circumstances, yes.
     
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    Ark is so awesome! Right now, I'm having fun re-doing trials for the merit points. Ark + Zenia is making this too easy.
     
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    Still didn't get him. Got stupidly close though. Damn it all, Oracle Knight, you will be mine!
     
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    Haha yea - I re-did Zevalhua and roflstomped with a terrible team while laughing all the way to hell. Such a fun unit.

    Shit sux man, what caused the loss? Think you could've skipped more HP breakpoints by nuking harder?
     
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    Or nuking later, didn't have enough "mmph" at 50%. "Nuking harder" probably means fixing my lackluster sphere collection.

    Or using a different mitigator, apparently 80% Def + Aurelia's conversion isn't enough to keep people alive during his first big AOE in phase 3. Though it might be smarter to Idol Aaron at that point.
     
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    I personally found I needed a 75% miti UBB (Elimo/Aaron) to survive that one. Generally speaking I found it pretty easy to get UBB back by the time Ark was down to ~40% which was when I launched the tactical nuke.

    Lexida, Sky Harbinger are great spheres for the nuking thing but not necessary if you wait until ~40% to be safe.

    +1 hit ES units are good too - Zenia, Bestie, etc
     
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    I know you like the guy, but it might be a bad sign when you start namedropping at every opportunity.
     
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