BB not going off in arena

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  1. InkandIron

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    I don't know what causes this to happen, but every so often my BB will not go off when the gauge is full. None of my units are inflicted with any status ailments. It's quite frustrating. Especially when I am on a long continuous victory run.

    Any insight?

    Not sure if this matters but my arena team is
    Fizz
    Azurai x3
    Lauda
     
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    All those units have good arena AI.. So you're just unlucky
    Sometimes, no bb rule pops up too though, in case you missed that
     
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    "every so often"
    that's the answer
    It's always a chance for a unit to fire BB/SBB. Sometimes it doesn't happen. They won't fire if No Brave Bursts rule is up like @shadow3 said, and they won't fire if the enemy team's already dead.
     
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    I guess I am just unlucky then because the only reason I ever lose is because my BB doesn't go off, but the opponents BB does. It just didn't make any sense to me so I figured I would ask and see if anyone had an answer. It is also quite frustrating.
     
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    When my BB/SBB proc doesn't go off. Sometimes I contemplate whether my units are more specially challenged compared to other summoners.
    1 BB/SBB can turn the tide of the battle, especially Azurai (Broken AF).
     
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    Do you even need BB in regular arena to win with that team tho :p
     
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    Lol you would think not, but they aren't all Omni yet and I'm not high enough level to have a full team of Omni units yet lol.
     
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    It happens unfortunately. Be thankful its not colo and had luck I had a few months ago where for a full 30 battles everyone straight up refused to use bb at all (not a single no bb rule insight)

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    So, to sum up - BB/SBB activation in arena is a particular proc chance, varying between different units. There's a handful of different scripted behaviour types for units in arena, about seven variations or so. Possibly more these days, I haven't really kept up to date with that stuff.

    Now, for example, Fizz, Azurai and Lauda are all what we call Arena Type 2 - this is probably the most common type these days, and considered one of the better choices. That means their scripting in arena is like this:

    1. If any enemy is over 50% HP, then 60% chance for unit to activate BB/SBB
    2. Random 20% chance for unit to activate BB/SBB
    3. If unit does not use BB/SBB, 100% chance for normal attack on random enemy

    What this means is that if at least one enemy on screen is above 50% HP, your units have a better chance of activating BB/SBB. If the rest of the enemy team is...all below 50% HP, let's say, then they actually have a shit chance of BB/SBB activation. But even under ideal circumstances it can fail - obviously you can fail a 60% check, a 20% check, and it's quite possible that every single one of your units will fail to activate BB/SBB even against a healthy enemy team. Once you see the numbers, it should be evident why. They aren't that good.

    If you want more reliable BB/SBB activation, you can try to use more units with stuff like Arena Type 3... for example, Type 3 includes a random 60% chance to activate BB/SBB - not pegged to enemy HP like Type 2 activation is. But relatively few modern Omnis use Type 3, we're talking stuff like Selena, Krantz, etc.
     
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    Acyl swooping into the post and dropping some knowledge!! Thanks man!
     
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    U don't have a few omnis? Dude u just need to pop a mifune lead in there and otks everywhere.

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    Right now I have Omni azurai, lauda, and mifune. I am working on getting my other two azurai to Omni and fizz as well. I haven't been playing that long so I can only fit two omnis in my party. I have lauda and azurai in there for my arena team.
     

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