Dual Kira vs Kira+Zenia leads for FH Mid Farming ?

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  1. rrevbra

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    In theory, dual Kira should yield more damage. But i read a guide where Kira+Zenia actually do more
    Which ones are better lead for FH mid farming ?
     
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    Also wondering this. Zenia helps fill, too. I'll get back here if I have a chance to test it.
     
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    If you use Nemeth, then yes Kira+Zenia should at least match dual Kira. If not just stick with dual Kira.
     
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    IIRC Kira+Zenia is ideal when you're using Nemethgear UBB since he adds +300% crit damage on it, base 150%+150% Kira+300% Nemeth means you're at 600% out of the iirc 700% cap already, wasting part of second Kira's LS even assuming you have no crit damage spheres equipped - which most do (Blades of Ultor, Blighted Seal, etc). So in that scenario, the second Kira LS isn't actually doing all that much for you, just the weakness damage really. So Zenia adding a huge chunk of base damage from LS actually helps more.

    Sans Nemethgear UBB, Kira wins, especially if your team is L/D heavy enough to benefit from the weakness side of things.
     
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    I thought Kira + Dion was Ideal to cover more elements?
     
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    I have a question that comes from this one.
    When you're farming mid with:
    Kira lead
    Zenia Friend
    Quaid
    Mifune
    Zenia
    X

    Which unit would be best to replace my X (I don't want to use Diana), I am trying to burst the maximum damage. Is the best choice Nemethgear (Should I raise my Oracle one?) or is there any good choice?

    Thank you :)
     
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    Nemeth of course. Oracle/Anima/Lord doesn't matter because his base atk is the same and typically you'll only bring him to content that requires you to quickly burst down the bosses, so breaker is the best and Guardian is the worst.
    Kira+Dion is used with Quaid+Diana setup, but they still can't match dual Kira with both Nemeth gear and Mifune around.
     
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    A lil bit of OT... Is it me or did they just nerfed MID I ran 2x awhile ago and got 6-1-1-2-3 got Glutton God on rounds 2 and 3 lolz XD has anybody experienced this also

    EDIT: i think it was an isolated case I did another MID run and encountered the usual mobs.. Thank God It's Friday (atleast on my time zone') :)
     
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    You cant mid farming with that team because you have no way to build SBB without damaging enemies
    To do mid farming, you NEED Diana, Elaina, or Shida (preferred) because their BB/SBB build gauge without killing enemies
     
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    I have Diana and Shida but I think it's too much time consuming so what I do is build my UBB on the first round and use it on the 3rd. It's not optimal but enough to rank and achieve +4. (y)
     
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    So you guys tell that I should pick a Zenia friend and not worry about not finding Kira in my godamn friendlist ? :)
    Team setup :
    Kira / Mifune / Nemeth / Elza / Shida
    I dont have my own Zenia so I cant use her instead of Elza
    If I replace Kira friends with Zenia, I guess I should use a second Mifune instead of Elza ?
     
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    2nd Mifune sounds great if you can keep both Mifunes alive tanking during OD charging. But you can always go the Diana route just to speed things up faster for SBB gauge charging.
     
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    Thanks! Adding Nemeth was a game changer!
     
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    I got 6 1 3 1 3 formation on my 6th run on middle (luckily still manage to get 8Mn - in which still higher than my current terminus score). Jewel god on second and earth totem on 4th.
     
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    That's a fuckton of waiting but i guess thats cool tho that would mean you'd need bb fill when attacked. So that means no bestie? Ew to that then lol. (I Really dont wanna raise my diana.)
     
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    Others would even go so far as to make Shida their only BB fill source using his SBB constantly. A LOT slower than using Diana but nets you more damage due to squad efficiency.
     
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    Now I'm confused. His ordering kinda confused me. What units are needed?? Two are filled. The other 3 are the part that throws me off. That bb usage showed double shida ? The ordering is confusing cause nothing would survive. Is this. Turn by turn or what?
     
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    Interesting. Must have missed that thread. Going to replace my Zenia with Diana and bring a Zenia friend instead. Things should be a lot more painless with Diana support.
     
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    I've tried this with both Kira/Kira and Kira/Zenia. Kira/Zenia yield better damage, but the difference was not that much, probably 1-2 million. (I was using a full light & dark team)
     

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