How GOOD Is Elza?

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  1. TheLanimal89

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    Just recently evolved my Elza into her Omni Evo, and I'm wondering: how good is Elza compared to the rest of the current Meta? Her Leader skill with ATK/HP boosts seem decent and the ability to replenish BB Gauge and HP on Spark seems top tier to me.
     
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    it depends on what the rest of your squad is
    if she is a sub her BB on spark is lower than ensa (if you have an ensa). her heal is really good and could let you bring in a different unit than a healer

    who is the rest of your squad?
     
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    I see her as a good sub unit.
    She has a great variety with her Ailments, Heals, and Spark damage. (BB Boost on Spark and Spark Crit /w SP Enhancements)
    Her BB Boost on Spark, along with spark damage boost, isn't too significant but it's really good for covering other units!
    She's my favorite out of the two being released, even though I don't have either yet.
     
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    My current Squad is:
    Felice (L), Sirius, Selena, Azurai, and Kulyuk.

    Do you think I can sub out anyone for Elza?
     
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    Kulyuk has BB Gauge on hit if you take that path, and you can give Elza BB Gauge boost on Spark. It's not significant, but it makes an extra spot by replacing Felice. Better to use Azurai as a lead IMO for the mitigation.

    Edit: You also have Sirius who has BB Gauge boost on Spark, so Elza and him would collide if you took that path. What are you planning to go for Elza's SP Enhancement? BB Gauge boost on spark or Spark Damage boost.
     
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    Elza is a mix of three things

    bc gen, spark and status aliments.

    She doesn't excel at anything but she's slot efficient. Felice is better than her at bc gen. Vern, Ensa, Eze and Zero are better at spark. Ensa and Azami are better at status aliments.

    She also has a HoT in case you need it.

    I'd say she's a good substitute if you lack Felice or Ensa.
     
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    So pretty much my team is good without her right now?

    I would probably go with BB Gauge Boost on Spark.
     
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    you could sub her in for sirius to give you a spark boost unless i am over looking where you are getting that from...
     
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    The strange capitalization in the thread title puts heavy emphasis on the word good, implying a slightly but significantly different question altogether.

    Unfortunately I'm not big on lore so I can't comment on her alignment so to speak.
    Was she locked up for a decent reason?
    Does anyone who uses a scythe for anything but cutting crops get painted in a positive light?
    Those are some sexy threads she has on.
    In conclusion..... Yes.
     
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    Well my team right now is:

    Felice (L), Sirius, Kulyuk, Azurai Selena, usually Ark Friend Lead. I was thinking about trying to swap out Sirius for Elza and using Sirius as Friend Lead, thoughts?
     
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    If those were my options I'd swap her for Sirius but continue using ark friend.
     
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    And putting Azurai lead, that would be a really good squad ;)
     
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    Elza is a trash lead. She's a great sub, IMO one of the best, I think only Ensa really comes close and even then I actually like Elza over her in many situations. "f2p" or legacy or no, she's just a genuinely really strong unit with fantastic autobattle friendliness and an amazing spark blanket.

    Her BC on spark SP is pretty much just a trap though, avoid it like the plague if you have a better BC on spark option (ex. Ensa, Sirius, Felice). And be fucking sure to get her spark damage boost, her SBB spark buff is a little below average so she wants all the damage she can get.
     
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    I don't know I think Elza is fine as lead not exactly trash tire the only thing not great about her is her Ls lacks def and slightly lower hp then most lead other than that her atk boost is fine her bc and heal on spark is also nice her Ls is far from trash as it's still usable even if you have better alternatives


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    As a lead, she has no damage and mediocre survivability. That's a bad lead when Ark and Azurai exist.
     
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    Still not trash is what Iam getting at yea there are better but also a lot worse Ls out


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    Agreed. Even Rosetta's LS is better than Elza's
     
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    I guess it's just a matter of definition. When we have absolute monsters like Azurai and Ark (the free unit) rocking leader skills worth killing for, and so much content requires or rewards high damage or unreal survivability, and most of the content that requires high BC gen (ex. KM) punishes BC on spark, I just feel like Elza LS is decent on paper but mediocre at best in practice.

    Rosetta has been IMO the most underrated 7* in the game for the entire 8* era until Elza at least, between her fantastic LS and a ridiculous SBB I feel like she straight outclassed most of her 8* competition outside of Ensa. But that's a rant for another day, and between Felice and Elza her spot has been slipping pretty bad lately.
     
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    I used Elza in my Genius Trial clear. her BB boosts the BB gauge of the party, which was clutch as fuck on stage 3. There were a couple times where Krantz was just shy of using his mitigation, but Elza saved the day.

    Her status ailments were a nice help as well, even though other units can do it better than she can, she still shines when you need it.
     
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    I've been running the wonder team for a while: (Azurai, Felice, Lara, Juno, Ensa, Ark friend).
    To switch things up I'm now running: Sirius, Lara, Stein, Elza, Zekt with Ark friend. It's a bit less "meta" but it is more auto-friendly as you don't have to bb with Ark to clense, or bb with Ensa to get the ailments running. I sp'd Stein to an omni Narza spec (bb on hit and negate), so for something that needs 2 turn mitigation the first team is better.
     
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