Level up Melchio? Or Duel-SGX?

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  1. Chandler

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    Jus wondering who I should be working on. I already have Michele and she's so good with SBB
     
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    If you think Michele's SBB is good. Wait to use DGX/DSGX's BB/SBB.
    For sure DGX over Mel
     
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    U should lvl up Duel SGX. Its sbb skills are AWESOME and if u lvl ot up plss add me [​IMG]
     
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    Melchio is more suited for FH for yhe weak element damage points and ailmenys immunity (Terminus in particular causes many fatal ailments like curses and paralysis). Outside of FH, Duel DGX wins.
     
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    If I combine it with Michele's will it be op?
     
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    Zebra, DGX and Doug is more OP. Because it's all about the crit.
    More hits = more crits

    [Unit's DMG + Sphere + LS + LS + Potion + Ore + ATK Buff BB + BB] x Crit x Element Weakness x Spark

    Just because Michele's SBB10 is 120% doesn't mean it's more than crit + spark lol
     
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    Michelle sbb10 is 150% boost
     
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    Did you test it or you looked on the JP wiki?
    Global players have tested it and its 120%

    Even if it's 150, doesn't change what I was talking to the OP about
     
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    Yeah I read it some where
    I think its bigger on jp
     
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    Ushi tested on JP. He got just over 110%
     
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    It's 150% boost in atk, because the final damage output is somewhat mitigated by enemies' def. If you bring along a def ignoring ally then the increase in damage would be 150%.
     
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    If you watched the vid. But I'm guessing you didn't from what you just said. He used def ignore buff.
     
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    ah, sorry I didn't watch the vid I will test it with my Michele later probably.
     
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    :) Let me know. The more testing the better
     
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    Yeah IMO SGX is the star of this batch of generation. No one can compare to what SGX can bring to the table for squad comp compared to any other units like Michelle or Melchio. And I love Mich but you don't need to use him and probably don't want to use him with Michelle. Crit squads actually synergize well with spark buff from Douglas more than Michelle + Doug or Michelle + SGX + whatever. What I do is I use SGX when I have Zebra friends and I use Michelle when rainbow friends are available. So it's not like I make Mich collect dust.

    And Ushi got it above 110% but even in JP the attack buff maxes out at 120% and it cannot go higher. Originally bunch of people thought it was 150% too and we thought it might have been nerfed but it was just mis-information from the beginning and people admitted that they were originally wrong. Michelle's SBB and her attack buff is still unrivaled and uncontested so she's still the best unit in terms of ATK buff; no questions there. But SGX is clearly superior. Think of Michelle->SGX as what Homusubi is to Felneus. A good alternative squad build.
     
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    IMO DGX is the best unit until Maxwell LOL
    I think Michele and Mel get way too much hype. Some people see 100 to 150% attack buff and rainbow BB?!?! WOW
    In reality they are the best at what they do. And they are GREAT units. They just fall short compared to DGX or DGX/Doug combo.
    Add in one Zebra and crit damage of 1.5x becomes 4.5x
     
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    It's hard to think they wouldn't get hype though. Melchio is definitely (among that generation of units) the strongest individually as a unit and he looks like a Gundam or something. And Michelle looks very nice too. Remember when Lodin first came out? A lot of people wanted him because he's a dragoon/drake-related unit and didnt even care if they needed him or not for Karl. Mich and Melc, I'm assuming, looks better to the general public than SGX. And without Zebra, Michelle is definitely superior over SGX but ofc with Zebra SGX becomes god-tier unit until Maxwell.
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    Regarding the 150%: maybe people though 150% because (back then Michelle's ATK buff maxed out at 100% I think?) + the damage increase from her LS. People probably forgot to take into account her 50% atk boost from LS when calculating the ATK buff %.
     
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    Well my squad right now is Michele SBB, 2 HA douglasses, 1 elimo, and Gradens. So who do I replace cuz Michele is usually the one that kills everyone
     
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    I'd replace Elimo. I love Elimo and she's one of the first units I RS'd. But you really don't need a healer with that squad.
     
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    If you to one shot everything and BF becomes too easy to the point of boredom.
    Take out Elimo and Grah
    Then put in Zebra and DGX
    If you don't have Zebra yet. Just swap out Grah for DGX
     
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