Tridon, Ultor, Edea, Loch, and Alice Review

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  1. Trcymcgrdy1

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    Thank you! One more question. Do rec to def buffs stack with atk to def buffs? I have a Zenia lead, but shove Tridon, and Balgran there for insane defense. if i put Aurelia or Alice there, willt hat get even more bonkers? And I refuse to use a deimos lead because that would make my phone explode from pure awesomeness.
     
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    Conversion buffs that convert to the same stat do not stack. You only get one of REC to DEF, ATK to DEF, that sort of thing.
     
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    @Taikero already gave a completely correct answer, but just to try to overview the 'grand list' of what does and doesn't work in regards to conversion buffs;
    • You can't have two conversion buffs that go to the same stat (ex. atk->def and rec->def)
    • You CAN have two conversion buffs that work FROM the same stat (ex. rec->def and rec->atk)
    • Conversion buffs NEVER work off of each other (if you have rec->atk up, atk->def won't get any stronger)
    • All NORMAL buffs work for conversion (Deimos's +100% rec works for rec->def)
    • LS 'buffs' also work normally and stack fine with 'normal' buffs (Tridon's 50% rec LS stacks with Deimos 100% rec SBB)
    • Taunt buffs DO work fine for conversions (not that there are many useful def->X conversions that I can think of... Lance UBB I guess?)
    • Sphere 'buffs' work fine as well, there may be the occasional rare exception but in general Malice, Heresy Orb, etc work fine
    • As one final note; Conversion buffs never* eat the base stat (*Except Bargus for some dumbfuck reason)
     
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    I can't wait for Aurelia 7*. As far as defense goes, Aurelia is a Tridon leads bff. They both work so well together. Only thing missing is mitigation. I hope it won't take too long for the next pair of SBS 7*s to get here.
     
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    That is why I say Aurelia might get mitigation at 7*. Paired with Tridon, that would be completely amazing. Only other option for mitigation would be Andaria at this point, but I think instead she'll get elemental retyping or some crazy BC gen buffs.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Good to know!
     
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    Great review Eleiryn. Because of this review I just maxed my Zenia and Tridon. Bestie and Alice are on its ways.
    If anyone has a Diemos Lead with the whole shabang, please feel free to add me. I can't wait to try the squad
     
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    Just a question. The Angel Idol buff from ultor's extra skill just works once in battle? Or whenever he gets hit at 20% HP?
     
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    Lol he would be nothing short of immortal if it worked everytime his hp goes below 20%. Yeah, it only works once in battle.
     
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    It's worth noting that gigantic hits that take him from >20% to 0% in a single hit (not attack, single hit) can bypass his idol as far as I know, same as with Selena - in arena it's generally not a problem since even super high damage attacks like a turbocharged Vesti come in a bunch of smaller hits so he'll almost always get the ES off, but it isn't 100% reliable on trials with huge attacks; stuff like Soul Extinguish for example can bypass it. Just something to keep in mind when relying on it. But yea, it only goes off once in a battle. Not sure if it resets between rooms of a battle, though... anyone know?
     
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    That is an interesting question! I might try that out on my next FG attempt.
     
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    Would appreciate it sir! Please let me know what your findings are.
     
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    It did reset between floor rooms for me during my last FG run. Used it once against Sefia then it worked again against Skramya
     
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    Is anyone have the same issue as me. My Alice SBB discretion is different between in game and in the Internet
     
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    ┬┐What do you mean about that?
     
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    The abilities are the same as the wiki they somehow had a typo in Alice's bb sbb ubb descriptions.
     
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    Thank you for reply. That clear my confusion
     
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    is it true that alice sbb converts rec to att? because in her desc, her sbb only said heal and healing overtime
     
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    Yes it is

    Her BB attacks, inflicts curse and heals all your units
    Her SBB gives you 80% REC->ATK buff and 30% BB fill rate (Ares buff)

    She's pretty cool, my best squad upgrade longside Edea
     
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    Just evolved mine.
    I ran a raid team a few moments ago without her to see how tri/deim/aur felt and the def must be silly good.
    I forgot/missed mitigating a few turns an barely got scratched.
    Just went a little slow.
    So time to level Alice.
    I never expected I'd have a good reason / excuse to evolve the lil scythe gal I never knew, let alone legit reason to take her raiding.
    Happy day :D
    Love her little ghosts too, look like hd haunters.
    Be nice if/when they add the alternative art tho.
     

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