What is killing me vs. Karna Masta?!

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    Hey hey, still trying desperately to take karna masta down for the first time. So Yetserday i got the furthest I have ever gotten. I had Karna Phase 2 down to i think just under 60% without using a single item yet in the battle. All of the sudden once I had him around 60-50% in phase two EVERY SINGLE TIME I ATTACKED HIM ONE OF MY CHARACTERS WOULD JUST DIE AFTER ATTACKING BEFORE MY TURN IS OVER. What exactly was causing this and how do I avoid it? I don't see anything in the guides on what is causing this.
     
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    Sounds kind of weird but are you sure it's not his huge damage over time? You need to make sure you have a decent HoT unit like Selena.
     
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    Yup im sure, maybe it was a one time glitch??? It was weird. I attack and almost like damage reflection my character goes down. I think its a one time deal and revive, next 3 turns one by one a character dies after attacking. I had no idea what was happening.
     
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    I think there was reflect damage or smth.....

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    Yeah, sounds weird. I know at 60% he does an extra ST nuke and 50% he buffs his ATK by a ton, but I'm pretty sure KM doesn't have damage reflect. What's your squad?
     
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    From a Reddit guide, here are the HP Threshold's for Karna Masta Phase 2:
    • Every 6 Turns - Reduce to Ashes - Massive MT damage. Heal everyone, guard Dark Ark, pray to RNGesus.
    • 90% - Extra Big Bang - RT Damage, just be healed up
    • 80% - Extra Big Bang - Again, pretty safe, just be healed
    • 60% - Extra Irresistible Destruction - Like Phase 1, do not trigger on a turn divisible by 3!
    • 50% - Hidden Strength - KM gets +1 Hits and +ATK/DEF buff. Ark UBB during Third Trigger will wipe this for a few turns.
    • 50% And Below - Big Bang Every Turn! - More RT damage, so expect more random deaths following 3/6 turn attacks.
    • 40% - Extra Irresistible Destruction
    • 30% - Extra Irresistible Destruction
    • 0% - "The world is distorting..." - Start Phase 3! (no transformation though)
    Like Kismos said, you need decent HoT to counter this! What is your current Squad right now?
     
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    Okay so my current squad is

    Zekt (leader) , Hisui (mitigator), Galtier, Selena, Mariela

    I considered subbing Lara in for Selena to also grab the crit mitigation. I have an endless sea of omni's to choose from i can list them all if you want to take a peak.
     
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    Okay so my current squad is

    Zekt (leader) , Hisui (mitigator), Galtier, Selena, Mariela

    I considered subbing Lara in for Selena to also grab the crit mitigation. I have an endless sea of omni's to choose from i can list them all if you want to take a peak.
     
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    If you can list them that would be great. Zekt, Selena, and Hisui are all great choices. You can work with Mariela, but I do not think Galtier is a good choice.
     
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    My Omni list:

    Avant, Kalyuk, Rengaku, Malef, Selena, Vern, Azami, Stein, Melord, Holia, Mariela, Daze, Hisui, Rozalia, Eze, Silas, Rayla, Krantz, Sirius, Lara, Izuna x2, Zekt, Magress, Mifune x4, Alice, Azurai x2, Galtier, Shura, Viktor, Kalon, Gregor, Rize, Zalts, Lance, Gyras, Fizz, Lauda, Agress, Zero, Garrel, Elza, Gabriella,
     
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    Zekt (L), Gabriela, Hisui, Sirius, and Rengaku...that's what I am thinking.
     
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    Despite being advanced in the game my knowledge of some of this stuff is lacking. Could you expand on your reasoning for that lineup? Just curious! thankss :)
     
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    Zekt - BB Gauge boost when hit and possible HP restore. 15% light/dark mitigation, BB Gauge boost on BB.
    Hisui - Great mitigator. DEF boost when guarding (which you will do sometimes on KM). REC -> DEF conversion. Status ailments negation.
    Gabriela - Potential double angel idol for emergency. Elemental damage and crit damage reduction. BB Gauge boost on hit. HP -> ATK conversion.
    Sirius - Tri stat buff, adds light/dark element to attack, spark damage boosts BB Gauge.
    Rengaku - OD Fill support.
     
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    Although your initial squad was a bit different, it shouldn't have had much of a problem beating KM. I'd use the squad Lanimal used except switch out Gabby for Holia. HoT arguably one of the most important buffs to have and it needs to be a strong one.
     
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    Never even thought about the HoT....nice catch!
     
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