Zedus and Andaria review.

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  1. Pulsate

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    If you pull off Libera :
    Zedus/Tridon
    Krantz
    Andaria
    Quaid
    X
    X

    And I have
    Griff / Zenia
    Krantz
    Libera
    Tridon
    X

    To get the same buffs right ?
    You have 2 free spots I have one but we both have all the damage buffs in the game aside conversions (I do have one) and pure ATK
    My last sub is Hadaron for ST nuking, what could be your last subs ? Ark ? Velnil ? (As you dont have BB mod buff yet) Thats pretty much the only damage buff left to add that we dont already have ^^
    Im at 150% BB% ahead (zenia LS) and you re at 80% spark damage ahead, pretty similar I guess
    Still even or slightly lower damage output than my setup. I know you have more surviviability but I dont die much anyways so whats the point of having an unbreakable super shield when you have an unbreakable shield already ^^ (that image sux lol)
     
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    Thank you very much for the answer. I'll just shut up now and read your discussions XD
     
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    wait, why do you think the max ubb buff on spark is 130, and the max ubb buff on bb atk is 500%??, that 80% is way better dmg wise than zenias buff.
     
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    At this point (aside Savriya and Shera comps mentioned below) it makes sense to field:

    • Zedus + Tridon
    • Andaria
    • Quaid
    • Shera + Will, Krantz + Vernil, or Krantz + Savriya

    Quaid can also be dropped in favor of more specific units when necessary.

    As for Hadaron, Tridon + Zedus makes him rather lackluster aside his huge SBB mod, although with Zedus fueling the fire Hadaron's still going to hit stupid hard.
     
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    That's why I was thinking Will for the extra spot.
     
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    so you changed zenia's bb mod for zedus'es elemental dmg on bb and you still have place for bb mod in first team. first team>second
     
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    Right now I'm swinging with

    Zedus lead/ Tridon friend
    Edea
    Bestie
    Will
    Hadaron

    Untill their spheres come out Andaria isn't able to allow me to switch from Edea unfortunately.

    I'm somewhat concerned with BC cost and know that means Hadaron will probably have to give up his spot to.... Crap what is his... The dark infinite SBB guy... >_> come on brain....

    Oh well I guess we will see
     
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    I only use Hadaron for his insane SBB mod and his self buffs. It makes it easier to bring crit lead to RC5Q10 without ruining drops
     
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    Did you forget Shera's BB regen clash with Andaria? Will + Krantz is probably the best for RC6 content, otherwise Krantz + Savia would be the way to go.
     
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    I put 2 X for some reason but there is only one spot left for each team if you count units
    I use Hadaron here anyways so I wont fill another BB mod anyways
     
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    so you're focusing your team around hadaron- it's ok, but not ok to say griff+zenia>tridon+zedus just because of that. I'd replace andaria with bestie in first team and last unit would be vernil. If you don't need to fast kill certain boss part this is way better team than what you had with zenia. If you need to kill certain part fast then i agree that hadaron is the guy and it's not bad tactic to focus your team around him. but even then you have quaid in first team and his ubb which can be used for killing off unwanted parts. overall zedus combines for better team than zenia but ofc you'd rather take zenia for crit resistant/immune content over zedus.
     
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    Zedus leads are great for even crit resistant stuff as just his LS + BB/SBB is 80% crit. I think the only content where he wouldn't shine is 100% immune bosses/body parts and while there are some resistant stuff, the full blown immune stuff is very few and far between.
     
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    I'm willing to accept a bit of overlap on the BC regeneration with Shera and Andaria in favor of an ATK buff and a high hit count "spark blanket" mitigator. I agree that it would be better without overlap (thus the other options) but one small bit of overlap isn't the end of the world, particularly because the buffs are exactly the same where they do overlap.
     
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    Would it be worth trying to summon for quad right now? group 6 popular choice seems a bit meh
     
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    In my opinon no. Quaid/Kafka would be the only good units in that rate up in my opinon.

    It's not worth summoning for anything other then GOD GATEE or other gates with an exclusive pool of x amount of units.
     
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    Thanks for all the very interesting and informative debate going on here guys! Such intelligent debate about party forming is one of the reasons I visit this forum daily :D

    While I unfortunately do not have much to add (I am horrible at theorycrafting), I wanted to ask your guys opinion about the party I am thinking of running. Which is...

    Zedus (lead)
    Tridon (Friend)
    Andaria
    Krantz
    Aurelia
    Quaid/Will

    My question is for the last slot, who would be a better fit, Will or Quaid? With Quaid I get all six elements covered with Krantz, but lose BB modifier buff and a nice spark blanket. With Will, I get the spark blanket and BB mod buff and more healing, but lose elements. Any advice?
     
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    IMO unless your playing satan windows frontier, ditch Aurelia. Andaria can cover the ailment protection, and Krantz can cover heals, and you'll need them both more then Aurelia. Run both Quaid and Will for the elements and BB mod with spark blanket and HoT.
     
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    Where can we get their spheres at for their extra skill

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    Don't use Aurelia and Andaria.
     
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    What good BB mod units are there to use beside Zedus? I can't think of any. Zenia was our only good one. Lava, Will, Vernil? Def Ignore is bad, Will would only be useful for light retyping because HoT is not necessary in raid (but then who is giving you dark? Michelle clashes). How good is Vernil's status on hit infliction in raid? Some people say status ailments are good in raid, but I've never bothered with it mainly because I could never fit one into my team. Are there any good ones coming soon from Japan? This is the main problem I see with Zedus. He's amazing, but there's no one amazing to fill in that spot. While with Zenia, we have several amazing Crit buffers.
     

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