Zenia and Deimos Review

Discussion in 'Unit Reviews' started by Eleiryn, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. Vermouth

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    I still have not beat Alfa Dilith Trial. I tried today twice using the following squad:
    Zenia+Demios
    Edea
    Tridon
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    Alice (single sphere, Anima, no imp)
    I come really close..I think he was around 30%HP, but I ran out of potion.
    Can someone please help me with my squad and spheres?
    I also have Bestie ready
     
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    Change one of them into Selena, who in my opinion is currently one of the best HoT units. She heals, damage, and tank pretty well
     
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    Oh, thank goodness this is still up.
    So @Eleiryn, I feel like Zenia can live without her unique sphere.. no, actually... I feel like she thrives from NOT using her unique sphere and what is your take on that? What I'm saying is basically, Friend Tridon lead + Zenia w/ Buffer / Fallacy = better than her unique sphere.
    Ugh, I guess you'd probably say it could go either way but perhaps would be better she has her unique sphere.
    Thing is, my breaker is so damn prone to dying. It's only happened like twice lol, but both times it was just her and not anyone else (that frustrates me). Ok done rambling for now.

    Looking for an excuse not to farm for her sphere xD
     
  4. Eleiryn

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    You can totally do fine without her sphere in hard content. It's not the end of the world. I know @Sustainer was doing some testing to see if her +1 hitcount worked without sphere; if it does then just slapping a Buffer or Honor Armor on there won't hurt her much overall.
     
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    It's super easy. Just get like two or more stars on Exodus and you're pretty much guaranteed a Void Chunk (at least in my case), unless you're having problems with the missions?
     
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    I feel like Sky Harbinger is better for Zenia than her sphere.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies, @Shinra, part of it's being lazy but part of it is her sphere isn't all that great TBH.. and I've still got Tridon, Ultor and, Deimos to sphere. Out of those 4, Zenia doesn't really NEED her sphere and I wanted to see what everyone else said about it
     
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    But... Zenia is bae. : ((
     
  9. icloud

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    Don't worry!! I still love her and sphere her and imp her and give her secondary stat sphere's like the waifu she is!! I promise :D
     
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    There's nothing wrong with not using her sphere. Last I checked (before her sphere was released), her +1 hit never needed the sphere.
    (http://www.bravefrontierforum.net/t...e-forums-confirm-zenias-es.58489/#post-780960)

    Using her own sphere is not a bad option either. Other than the +1 hit count, she still gains 20% HP, DEF and REC, 100% ATK and 30% damage reduction (30% chance same as Blessed Robe) from her ES and sphere. So even though she gains less HP than using Malice/Buffer, she is still tanky with that 30% damage reduction and packs a punch with that 100% ATK and +1 hit count.
     
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    You should still get her sphere anyway, even if you don't plan on using it on her. An Obsidian Core Amplifier will be of way more use to you than an Obsidian Quartz.
     
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    Actually she became an absolute nuker just by slapping her unique sphere on. The spark is so insane that I'm practically 2tk every thing in fg from stage 1-24 with dual zenia lead. The last one is when my elimo doesn't have enough bb to mitigate so I have to clutch it.
     
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    is Deimos's LS negates all status ailments bugged ? I was running Trial 004, and got cursed all the time even with Deimos lead.
     
  14. Sustainer

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    And


    I verified last night as well, her unique sphere is not needed for the extra hits - just to confirm Alrisha above, I seemed to swing between 25-28 BC generated (Scaled off screenshots to figure out amount of BB gauge fill) used Zenia and a Friend unit only.

    With 78 DC at a 35% drop rate I'd expect ~27 DC, if I had 39 DC I'd expect ~14 DC.
     
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    Do you need to have SBB10 for the extra +1?
     
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    Yes. UBB must be unlocked to obtain any unit's ES.
     
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    Thanks: )
     
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    Thought I'd post here and say I went ahead and got all 4 void chunks for Ultor/Deimos/Zenia/Tridon and ultimately decided to sphere Zenia with her unique sphere + Fallacy orb.. I don't regret it at all.

    She can live without it for sure, unlike some others like Tridon who should REALLY have his sphere on.. but Zenia's sphere might as well go on Zenia, not a "great" all-purpose sphere but great on her. (y)
     
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    After a week or two now with Zenia in my squad as both lead and sub, am I the only one that is somehow finding her underwhelming at times? I don't seem to do as much damage with her as lead as I expected. For example, in RC4 X2, I'm still taking an awfully long time to down Raid bosses even though I'm running a lineup of Zenia (lead), Feeva, Kira, Raaga, Aaaron, and Deimos (Friend). Am I not using her correctly? I use her as a sub in FG because I've found that my Kira/Raaga lead combination produces more points for me overall in 1-20 farming than having Kira/Zenia or dual Zenia leads. I think I'm missing something here...
     
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    About 2/3 of Zenia's damage is on her SBB, the rest is on her LS. Raaga is more evenly split, with a bit more damage on his LS as opposed to his SBB. If you can separately use Raaga as a lead and a 200% BB ATK% buffer (Lava or Dion are good examples) as a sub then that will create more damage than using just Zenia as a leader. This assumes you have the squad space for this strategy which is usually not possible for most content due to slot-efficiency concerns, where Zenia shines.
     

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