Zenia and Deimos Review

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  1. Windel

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    Its quite fascinating on how they changed Tridon's LS from 50% to 40% HP increase... Making both Deimos and Tridon competitive.... They both make excellent leads or subs but in terms of utility, and uniqueness... It seems Tridon is more desirable.... I wonder what could be the next units of the 2nd SBS units batch....

    Also, that Zenia remains unchanged.... I wonder how Alim will respond to that with their 7* Elza... Things keep getting interesting on how both sides compete in making units without breaking the game too much...
     
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    Tridon and Deimos offer some rather different playstyle options, which I personally feel is a good thing. Deimos is all about redirecting damage, whereas Tridon is more about face-tanking. Neither offers a serious damage increase or appreciable BC generation (due to BC drop resistance being rampant in high-end content affecting Tridon and Deimos's Taunt causing issues with his BC fill on being attacked LS), but the defensive potential they carry is huge. So long as you can compensate for their weaknesses, they are valuable allies, but there are definitely encounters where one or the other certainly does not shine (sometimes Taunt is just really not recommended, for instance).

    Zenia isn't really all that much different from Raaga outside her UBB. She's a slightly better leader and a much better sub, and the only time she really blows Raaga away is when her UBB pops off. At that point she goes full-on Maleficent Dragon mode.

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    NOW SHALL YOU DEAL WITH ME, YOUNG PRINCE, AND ALL THE POWERS OF HELL
     
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    I want to try some of that Alice / Deimos synergy. Any tips, advice, or things I should know?
     
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    Demios SBB before Alice SBB
     
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    When are you going to release the review for Zell Deus, Altri and Will...I can't wait
     
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    @Vermouth hit the nail on the head - use Deimos SBB for the rec buff, then Alice SBB afterwards. That's pretty much all you need to rekt. Minor concerns would be using Malice (if possible) over non-rec-boosting 30% HP spheres, the extra 30% rec isn't a HUGE difference but every little bit helps.and figuring out where in your attack order Alice sparks best - she has a kinda funky animation, totally usable mind you, but depending on where your hit counts are clustered you might want to do her earlier or later in the overall order.


    Usually I wait to do it until they come out, if only so I can put off writing that wall o textbarf as long as possible.
     
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    Aaaawwwh, you should do it today.
     
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    may be just a sneak preview will be nice :)
     
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    Oh great, you mention Alice's funky animation because it's worse than Deimos' or because Deimos is in a whole 'nother league of funky? xD
     
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    It takes a couple hours and I have other writing I want to do tonight ;_;

    I can summarize it though.
    -Will is a great sub, BC/HC/HoT/BB mod buff and a bunch hits on SBB, doesn't work very well with Tridon/Zenia but does work well with Raaga and the upcoming Loa.
    -Altri is kinda niche, cool UBB but vulnerable to buff wipes, good healer in some situations though
    -Zel Deus is an arena beast and a fantastic mitigator if you don't rely on BC on spark to sustain BBs, and pretty meh in Zenia/Tridon/Deimos type teams due to the overlap defense buff and his single hit being pretty useless for BC on spark stuff. Good unit, struggles a little in the global/JP shared meta of BC on spark being the One True God(tm), but very usable. He starts shining more when 7* Michele hits and offers a pretty solid lead alternative.

    NOWHERE near as bad as Deimos's. She sparks ok, just not great.
     
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    O, I'm so nosey! :( What.. what is it? :lol: Do you write professionally? I picture you as a high-profile blogger or journalist or.. some profession involving writing, lol.
     
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    Basically Will and Zell are perfect. Altri=meh
     
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    So Ele, in your opinion who else got tampered by Zenia's presence?? Just pulled a Vernil yesterday but currently I'm raising a Zenia... Just wondering if Zenia and Vernil can synergize in raid.... Vernil for status ailment and Zenia for LS and damage dealer..
     
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    You're better off using Vernil + Raaga leader instead of Vernil + Zenia if you want to maximize damage.
     
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    Thanks (y)
     
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    Hey guys, is Deimos oracle worth to train? Still confused about it even when the oracle type has been buffed in the recent update...

    Need your tips, and thought pleasee.. Thank you..
     
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    Same thing holds true as before, pick the unit over the type.

    Truly, the loss of ~300 HP with Oracle never mattered as most were focused on HP, you get a split between people that liked Breaker/Guaridan/Lord, almost 50/50 or 33/33/33...

    Now that HP is the same as L/G/B/O there should be less of these questions.

    The idiots that came up with A > G > L > B > O type thing need to be shot.. in the head... twice.
     
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    Oracle is the worst type ever. Total trash. Plz sell for points image.jpeg
     
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    N...nice, thank you for gave me a reason to train him, (y) (y)
     
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